David Grusch cites Dick Cheney while discussing the alleged custody of living extraterrestrials.

The whistleblower and former intelligence officer David Grusch claimed during an interview on the Dr. Phil podcast that the U.S. government had allegedly kept living extraterrestrial beings in custody after incidents involving purported craft of non-human origin. According to his account, the operation allegedly involved high-ranking U.S. government officials.

When discussing who may have overseen programs related to the recovery of non-human materials and vehicles, Grusch referred to former Vice President Dick Cheney, using the nickname “Darth Vader,” by which Cheney became known in Washington.

The statement comes after Grusch claimed in other appearances that the United States was holding between 25 and 100 vehicles of extraterrestrial origin at secret facilities. According to him, some of these craft were recovered after crashes, leading to operations involving possible occupants.

Grusch also described what he characterized as direct interactions with these beings. According to his account, communication would not occur through conventional verbal language, but through a form of mental communication that he associated with telepathy.

The former intelligence officer further claimed that intelligence and government bureaucratic structures, which he referred to as the “Deep State,” had kept information about these programs hidden from presidents and members of Congress.

According to Grusch, some of the recovered material and related research had been transferred to private companies in the defense sector, making the information more difficult for government authorities and the public to access.

The statements have once again brought Grusch’s allegations about secret programs involving unidentified anomalous phenomena, the recovery of non-human technology, and alleged occupants of these vehicles to the forefront of the debate. His claims, made on several occasions, continue to fuel discussions about the possible existence of information withheld from the public by the U.S. government.